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Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald appear on the Jeremy Vine Show

Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald

on the Jeremy Vine Show




Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald, authors of the controversial book on alcoholism “Phoenix in a Bottle”, were guests on Friday’s edition of BBC Radio 2’s Jeremy Vine Show.

Lilian and Murdoch, from Ayrshire, Scotland, argue that Alcoholics Anonymous is wrong, and that alcoholism is not an illness or a disease, but a self-harming behaviour problem stemming from childhood.

They maintain that lifelong sobriety is not the solution to alcoholism, as this only treats the symptoms and not the causes of the problem, and is merely a damage limitation exercise.

The couple maintain that alcoholism, in common with other self-harming disorders like bulimia, anorexia and self-mutilation, often stems from problems experienced in childhood.

And if these problems can be identified and properly addressed, then the problem behaviour can be cured.

Eleven years ago the couple had hit rock bottom, sleeping rough for two weeks on the streets of Cambridge, where a quarter of a century previously as an undergraduate Murdoch had received an honours degree in English Literature at Magdalene College.

They had moved to Cambridge from Ayr with the idea of Murdoch doing research for a doctorate, but had reverted to their old habits, started binge drinking, and been thrown out of their lodgings.

After a fortnight, and when they were just about at the end of their tether, two nurses on their way home after a Saturday night out took pity on Lilian and Murdoch, bought them a cup of tea and found them a place in a homeless hostel.

They spent the next twelve months there getting to the roots of their alcoholism. They tried AA one last time, before concluding that it was a quasi-religious cult whose ideas on alcoholism were inadequate and outdated.

Instead, by reading psychology, they decided that the causes of their alcoholic behaviour lay in problems experienced during childhood. And that once these problems were realised and addressed, there was no longer any need for escape through alcoholism, and they could even drink normally like other people again.

Ten years after selling newspapers from a stand in Market Square, Cambridge, so that he and Lilian could get back on their feet financially, Murdoch is now a freelance business and financial journalist, and also runs his own public relations consultancy.

And in order to pass on the benefits of their experience to others who still have problems with alcohol, the couple have written their book “Phoenix in a Bottle”.

Reviewing the book, American addiction expert Dr Stanton Peele PhD commented:

Phoenix in a Bottle is a modern version of The Days of Wine and Roses, and tells the true story of how two people who entered a period of desperate drinking stayed with one another in a close loving relationship, and emerged from their alcoholism able to drink responsibly again.

“Both a wonderful love story and a challenge to conventional wisdom about how people can recover from drinking problems, Phoenix in a Bottle gives people hope, and helps them to confront their own demons - alcohol or otherwise.”

“Phoenix in a Bottle" by Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald is published by Melrose Books price £16.99.

 

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http://www.alcoholicscandrinksafelyagain.com/

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About Lilian and Murdoch

 

Lilian and Murdoch’s lives were devastated by alcoholism, but they have now recovered so completely that they now not only lead normal lives again, but are also able to drink in a perfectly sociable manner once more.

That goes against the teaching of Alcoholics Anonymous, and of many alcoholism treatment centres throughout the world.

But Lilian (61) and Murdoch (58) believe that lifelong sobriety is not the solution to alcoholism, as this only treats the symptoms and not the causes of the problem, and is merely a damage limitation exercise.

The couple argue that alcoholism, in common with other self-harming disorders like bulimia, anorexia and self-mutilation, often stems from problems experienced in childhood.

And if these problems can be identified and properly addressed, then the problem behaviour can be cured.

Ten years ago the couple had hit rock bottom, sleeping rough for two weeks on the streets of Cambridge, where a quarter of a century previously as an undergraduate Murdoch had received an honours degree in English Literature at Magdalene College. They had moved to Cambridge from Ayr with the idea of Murdoch doing research for a doctorate, but had reverted to their old habits, started binge drinking, and been thrown out of their lodgings.

After a fortnight, and when they were just about at the end of their tether, two nurses on their way home after a Saturday night out took pity on Lilian and Murdoch, bought them a cup of tea and found them a place in a homeless hostel.

They spent the next twelve months there getting to the roots of their alcoholism. They tried AA one last time, before concluding that it was a quasi-religious cult whose ideas on alcoholism were inadequate and outdated.

Instead, by reading psychology, they decided that the causes of their alcoholic behaviour lay in problems experienced during childhood. And that once these problems were realised and addressed, there was no longer any need for escape through alcoholism, and they could even drink normally like other people again.

Ten years after selling newspapers from a stand in Market Square, Cambridge, so that he and Lilian could get back on their feet financially, Murdoch is now a freelance business and financial journalist, and also runs his own public relations consultancy.

And in order to pass on the benefits of their experience to others who still have problems with alcohol, the couple have written their book “Phoenix in a Bottle”.

Reviewing the book, American addiction expert Dr Stanton Peele PhD commented:

Phoenix in a Bottle is a modern version of The Days of Wine and Roses, and tells the true story of how two people who entered a period of desperate drinking stayed with one another in a close loving relationship, and emerged from their alcoholism able to drink responsibly again.

“Both a wonderful love story and a challenge to conventional wisdom about how people can recover from drinking problems, Phoenix in a Bottle gives people hope, and helps them to confront their own demons - alcohol or otherwise.”

An anonymous reader from London wrote the following review of "Phoenix in a Bottle" to Amazon UK.

"An excellent insight into the life of an alcoholic and what it is like to be dependant on alcohol to get you through the day.

"I have no interest in drinking and am actually teetotal.

"I came across this book through a friend by chance and I definitely recommend it to anyone.

"Not only does it cover the turmoil that both Lilian and Murdoch suffered due to their addiction, but it also gave an incredibly account of Lilian's past and why she struggled.

"The details on her eating disorder really struck a chord, as it is something I have suffered from too, and made me consider my own life and past events that might have made me become obsessive about controlling food.

"I can not recommend this book enough. It proves that these things can be beaten with some determination, love and without having to turn to a life of self-denial.

"Well done!"

 

“Phoenix in a Bottle" by Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald is published by Melrose Books price £16.99

 

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Our new book "Phoenix in a Bottle" by Lilian and Murdoch MacDonald, describing how we overcame alcoholism and are now able to drink responsibly again, was published on 31 May 2005 by Melrose Books price £16.99 and is now available worldwide.
 
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